with respect to chuck hagel and brennan, defense and cia, just in the last week their performance in front of the committees that have to confirm them has been pretty poor. that's, you know, not my judgment. that's the judgment, as well, of senators on both sides of the aisle. my guess is if you look at what the president's motives are for picking chuck headachel l-- chu hagel, he wants the republican to be the foil for what he wants to do with the defense department which will do serious damage to the department. it looks to me that the president has made choices in part based on people who won't argue with him. >> we'll have much more of that interview ahead. the former vice president will talk about the use of water boarding and his relationship with former president george w. bush. >>> 24 hours after the bombshell announcement that pope benedict is resigning, the focus now turns to choosing his successor. benedict is the first pope in six centuries to step down. his last day is february 28. and this morning there are new reports about the pope's health. allen pizzay is in vat cal